Rough
Nothing surfaced yet. You mill everything in the shop.
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Commercial hardwood is sold by rough quarter thickness, how much milling it already has, and volume in board feet. Terms like 4/4, S2S, and S4S tell you what you are buying before you mill to size. Widths and lengths vary. We sell lumber in standard board foot pricing, and we can mill boards to size at a fair rate.
This chapter clears up common confusion at the counter. Someone asks for one-inch walnut and points at an S2S board measuring 13/16". Both of you are right. You are using different terms for thickness. Here is the vocabulary we use at Fells Hardwood Supply, and what to look for on bundle tags in the store.
Thickness is named in quarters of an inch of rough stock before you joint and plane. Common examples, not a complete catalog:
Dealers also carry other quarters (10/4, 12/4, 16/4, and more) depending on species and pack. Buy starting thickness for the finished size you need, plus allowance for snipe, twist, and a final skim pass. If your parts must finish at a full 1", start at 5/4 or 6/4. Not 4/4.
In the store, thickness is usually sorted in bins or bundles. 4/4 cherry here, 8/4 walnut there. The tag should say the quarter thickness even if the faces are already surfaced.
Dealer hardwood comes in varying widths and lengths within a pack. It is not one fixed size like a pre-cut 1×6×8. Some bundles are random length and width (RL/RW). Others are width-sorted (“6–8" width cherry”) or width-specified. You are buying board footage to fill a cut list, not a SKU with fixed width and thickness.
Walk the cut list before you pull boards. A project that needs three 8" wide panels may require five boards from the store once you account for defects and grain match.
End views below. Purple and solid edges are milled. Dashed edges are still rough. S2S does not guarantee flatness.
Nothing surfaced yet. You mill everything in the shop.
Surfaced two sides (the faces). Edges still rough. Planed is not the same as flat.
S2S plus one straight-line edge. A rip and glue reference. Still not a flatness guarantee.
Faces and edges already milled. Ready-to-use stock, usually thinner leftover for the same quarter.
Surfacing two faces does not make a board flat. A thickness planer follows the board’s existing shape. Cup (across the width), bow (along the length on the face), crook (along the length on the edge), and twist or wind (corners not in one plane) are different problems. Wind is only one of them. Full FAQ with jointing order: bow, cup, crook, and twist.
Faces curve across the width.
Face curves along the length.
Edge curves along the length.
Corners not in one plane.
Hardwood is priced by volume in board feet, not by the finished size you will mill to. One board foot is 144 cubic inches of wood. A piece 1" thick × 12" wide × 12" long, measured at nominal rough thickness.
BF = Thickness (in) × Width (in) × Length (in) ÷ 144
Always use the nominal rough thickness in the formula, even if the board is already S2S. A 4/4 board planed to 13/16" still counts as 1" in the math. You are paying for the wood it took to make that blank, including the shavings on the mill floor.
We sell lumber in standard board foot pricing. Widths and lengths vary per board, and if you need specific sizes we can mill boards for you at a fair rate.
Suppose you need several parts from 4/4 cherry.
Subtotal: 11.17 BF before waste. Add 15–30% for planing loss, defects, grain rejects, and miscuts. Use more waste allowance for figured stock or a first big glue-up.
Surfacing removes material, but dealers price the original rough thickness so everyone tallies the same way. If you wonder why you are paying for an inch when the board measures 13/16", look at the quarter tag on the bundle, not the caliper on the surfaced face.
A board foot is volume. That is the standard at hardwood dealers. A linear foot is length of a piece with a fixed width and thickness. Common for S4S moulding and pre-sized boards. Do not convert fixed-size linear-foot thinking into dealer board-foot pricing. The units describe different products.
Shorter FAQ versions are How is hardwood lumber sold? and How much wood for my project?
At Fells Hardwood Supply most boards are S2S or S2S SL1E. Rough is uncommon. Only a few exotics come in that way. If you have a jointer and planer (or access to one), S2S lets you control final thickness and yield. S2S does not guarantee the board is already flat, so plan to joint and plane. If you need pieces milled and ready to use and accept paying for milling plus less leftover thickness, S4S is fine for small parts. Verify actual dimensions. An “S4S 1×4” may not match the nominal sizes you see on construction lumber.
Related FAQs. Should I buy S4S or S2S? · Bow, cup, crook, and twist